Thursday, July 26, 2018

Are You The Good Shepherd?



Are you The Good Shepherd?


The Way of The Pack is not just a way for training Livestock Guardian Dogs. It is a way for training people, too. The success or failure of most LGDs can be traced to their owners. Are the owners Good Shepherds, or lazy ones? Do they treat their dogs with respect and compassion, or callously like disposable tools? Do they strive for co-existence, or are they too busy bragging about killing a wolf and posting senseless, graphic photos of it on social media? Are they hard workers and vigilant, or too busy checking texts and Facebook posts on their smartphone and constantly oblivious to what is going on around them? Are they patient with their dogs and flocks, or always in a hurry? A major focus of my book is going to be about training you to be The Good Shepherd. By being a better, responsible owner and shepherd, your LGDs and livestock will benefit, too.   www.lgdnevada.com





Sunday, June 17, 2018

Calling Out "Littermate Syndrome": A Lie Promoted by Inept LGD Owners






My first five LGDs: Sibling Maremma/Anatolian brothers Pak and Pala
Three Great Pyrenees siblings brother and sisters Petra, Peso and Pinta
I've honestly lost count of how many siblings I have raised and kept here over the years 
but it's way up in the double digits, and I know looking at a video that I was going to put up on my fledgling You Tube Channel the other day, I counted five sibling pairs on my ranch in just that one video. 
I do it successfully. So can you.

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Munchausen syndrome, is a factitious disorder wherein those affected feign disease, illness, or psychological trauma to draw attention, sympathy, or reassurance to themselves. 


Apparently there are increasing numbers of inept, inexperienced, and what appears to be very lazy LGD owners lurking in many Facebook LGD forums these days afflicted with Munchausen syndrome, in that they all seem to think something called "Littermate Syndrome" really exists. 


It does not. 


"Littermate Syndrome" is a myth, concocted by a dog trainer who refused to take the time to try to understand sibling pups and couldn't train dogs. So he/she concocted up a "syndrome" label to use, to get themselves off the hook and put all the blame on a sibling pair of pups. 

The Internet by the way, is loaded with bloggers bemoaning "Littermate Syndrome." In fact there are so many blogs with "Littermate Syndrome" posts on them as to make you gag. 

The anti-sibling "Littermate Syndrome" rants are usually posted by "dog trainers" with many letters after their names (read my lips: usually a huge red flag.) In a few of them that I've read and replied and posted to, arguing against the anti-littermate BS, I have been flooded with Emails from people who read my side of the story and said "Hey wait just a minute now, this lady sounds like she's done it, and done it a lot, and done it really well, and she actually makes sense..." 

Uh huh. 

Well, after rearing up - let's see, is it 12? 13? 14? or more? sibling pairs of LGDs here - I kind of could almost say I wrote the book on running LGD siblings.

These anti-sibling people, instead of holding up a mirror to themselves and asking themselves why it is they can't raise and train and successfully run sibling LGDs, LGD owners instead point the finger at the dogs and use the excuse of "Littermate Syndrome" as to why they can't work.


Running siblings has been and always will be my specialty. I've done it successfully going on a decade, because it's the only way to go. And many, many of my customers have followed suit. And the ones that turned around and bred my dogs that they bought from me (for good or bad) in turn promoted using siblings to their customers. Well I'll be darned. So I guess I can say, I convinced, corrupted and/or ruined a lot of people for life. Funny thing is, they, and their own customers, don't have sibling pair issues with LGDs. 


So if they can do it, so can you. 

Stop listening to the wrong people. And you'll find those wrong people packed in most Facebook LGD groups. 

Just in the past 30 days, three separate consulting customers of mine with - you guessed it - sibling pairs of LGDs - contacted me for advice and support after they heard or read on these Facebook groups that they "screwed up" buying siblings (they didn't.) 

One informs me that worse yet, there are actually people in these Facebook groups encouraging people with sibling pairs to rehome one of the siblings so they don't "fight, play, or chase stock." If that don't beat all. Gads. Thank God they came to me before taking such bad advice from yahoos.

Meanwhile, all three consulting customer's sibling LGDs are going great. Beyond great. They are amazing their owners with their calm ability and guarding instinct, their keen interest in livestock, and as the millennial types like to say, are "rocking the guardian dog thing."

Folks, running LGDs in the right numbers is key to success. One of the quickest ways to effect strength in a dog pack is to purchase sibling pairs or trios of pups. This in turn, supports the family pack dynamic and - you know I'm going to say this because I'm working on my book and getting it done - it's The Way of The Pack.


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From five years ago, a short article I wrote for Goat Rancher Magazine on Siblings:

Running Sibling Pairs of LGDs: 
Twice the Protection in Half the Time

Brenda M. Negri ©Copyright 2013
The author and GOAT RANCHER MAGAZINE, 
published December, 2013
All Rights Reserved



Discussing running sibling pairs of Livestock Guardian Dogs often elicits moans and groans of trepidation and uncertainty from many, but I have had nothing but success running sibling pairs of both genders in my pack, and regularly recommend buying litter mates to my customers whether its from me or someone else.

Dogs are by nature, pack animals.  They thrive in the company of other dogs, and their complex pack hierarchy is passed on from parent to pup. Puppies in a litter naturally grow up together bonding to one another, and what they learn from their parents and litter mates in the first several weeks of life molds them for what they will be in the future.  

When you remove a pup from a litter anywhere from 8-12 weeks of age, he will naturally be frightened, confused, and insecure for the first several hours or days, depending on how he was raised.  When you take two siblings at the same time, however, there is less stress when separated from the litter and parents.  They still have each other to lean on, and this bond only becomes stronger.  They also continue the education of the pack and their other siblings, with each other.  There is a continuity in ongoing education that would not happen if the pup leaves by itself.

Not only have I had success running sibling pairs of LGD’s, my customers have too.  Laura Spindler who owns three pups of mine, was pulling up to her five acre ranch home in Battle Mountain, Nevada, when she saw the feral dog pack in her back field.  Somehow, a gate chain had been left unfastened, and there was a gap big enough to allow a roaming feral pack of pit bull cross dogs into her property.  To Laura’s horror, the pack of dogs were making a bee-line for her little Scotty dog.  And just past him, was her goat herd.

It so happened that morning Laura had taken Violet and Sele, her two half sibling LGD youngsters, with her in the car when she took her husband to work for some ‘car time training’.  Both 8 months old, half Spanish Mastiff, and Maremma and Anatolian, the two girls got wind of the wild dogs immediately.

“It was almost surreal”, Laura recalls. “They never made a sound.  They both bolted out of the car as soon as I opened the door, and headed straight for the dog pack.”

The lead dog was about to jump the Scottie when the two LGD pups “hit him like a freight train”, Spindler says.  The pack froze, then scattered, heading back for the open gate, including the large lead dog.

“But the girls had other plans for the leader,” she continued, “Sele grabbing a rear leg, and Violet his throat” and literally “drug him back through the fence into our field.”  The siblings proceeded to take the lead dog down, eventually snapping a rear leg, and sent him packing on three legs.  

“The dogs never came back after that.  And I swear, had I only one LGD, the story would have ended, I’m convinced, quite differently” Spindler says.  “I have seen how powerful a pair can be together, even at only 8 months of age, and I truly had twice the amount of protection in half the time compared to starting with just one pup.”

Many people claim that two pups raised up together will bond only to one another, and not to livestock.  This is simply not true, and I’ve never had that happen in all the sibling pairs that I’m running.  Good guardian dog pups from good, proven working stock will guard by instinct with plenty of guidance and correction and encouragement from their owners, with or without their siblings. 

Furthermore, as they progress and age, siblings present a much stronger deterrent to predators at a much earlier stage because there is indeed, strength in numbers.  Where as one pup could be viewed as an easy meal for a hungry coyote pack, two pups will present much more of a formidable challenge and threat.  As Laura Spindler found out, a team of pups can tackle much bigger problems than just one alone; what her young 8 month old pups accomplished fending off a feral dog pack is something that is usually done by much older, seasoned dogs.  Running siblings can be done successfully, and is something to consider especially for those experiencing heavy predator loads where one LGD simply is not enough.

Advantages:
§  Pups are already bonded to one another thus there is no time needed for introductions
§  Two LGD’s present a much more formidable obstacle to threats, predators and trespassers than one thus getting protection for your stock, sooner
§  Two siblings will back each other up: one will work while one rests; less stress on the dog means a healthier dog that lives and works longer for you
§  You get all the puppyhood training and ‘ups and downs’ over with in one fell swoop instead of stretching it out longer for two separately purchased pups
§  You can run two males, two females, or one of each sex together as sibling pairs








Wednesday, December 27, 2017

Fire and Disaster Prepping your Livestock Guardian Dogs


Sheep! Magazine's January/February 2018 issue has my article on fire and disaster prep for your Livestock Guardian Dogs. Get your copy today: 

Fire and Disaster Prep
Your Livestock Guardian Dogs

Brenda M. Negri
Copyright 2017

The recent raging California wine country fires of 2017 have brought a sobering death toll that, at the time of this writing, is over 40. Losses and damages are in the multi-millions of dollars. Many homes, businesses, schools, small farms, homesteads and ranches have been consumed and lost to flames, and with those losses, untold loss of life in livestock, pets and wildlife.


A disturbing news article on the Internet showing the miraculous survival of a Livestock Guardian Dog and it’s eight goats in California after the owners abandoned them to oncoming raging flames, created heated debate and outrage on both sides, with supporters and critics alike arguing the right and wrong of the owner’s actions – and inactions. While the victims were praised by many and a crowd funding set up to help them rebuild, just as many if not more people questioned their lack of preparation and most of all, the fact that they literally left their animals behind to die a horrible death – understandably sparking outrage and disbelief. Regardless of one’s position on that incident, the article showed what happens when people don’t plan ahead wisely, and how important it is for livestock owners to have a solid plan of escape should fire threaten their property. This preparation needs to include not just humans, but livestock and the animals that guard and protect that livestock – whether they are dogs, llamas or donkeys. Leaving them behind to die an agonizing death in flames is NOT an option that moral, caring and responsible owners exercise.

In 2014, Countryside Magazine published a wonderful educational short article by Mary Wilson titled Fire Evacuation Procedures for Your Livestock: http://countrysidenetwork.com/daily/homesteading/self-reliant-living/fire-evacuation-procedures-livestock/. Packed with sound advice, it included a pertinent list of five “must do’s” in the event of a fire on one’s ranch, farm or homestead:

The 5 P’s of Executing Immediate Fire Evacuation Procedures:

•    People, pets, and livestock
•    Papers—important documents
•    Prescriptions—medications, eyeglasses, hearing aids
•    Pictures—Irreplaceable memories
•    Personal computer

Where I live in Northern Nevada open range country, range fires are fast moving, deadly, and feared above all else. I have had several range fires come dangerously close to my ranch and on each occasion, along with my neighbors, had essentials packed up and ready to go at a moment’s notice, and spent many sleepless nights on fire watch. Ranchers in my country have evacuation plans and are prepared to fight then flee when the time comes. Many new hobby farmers however, do not think about fire prevention and preparation tips until it’s too late. The mindset is often more of “oh, it can’t happen to me,” when in fact, it very well could. Living here with a huge pack of Livestock Guardian Dogs means I must think about how I will get them – and my sheep and cattle – to safety when the time comes. Leaving them behind to die is of course, out of the question!

Part of responsibly owning and using LGDs goes far beyond them just keeping your livestock free from harm year in and year out. It means YOU, the owner, have a plan in place to keep your LGDs safe and alive in the time of a fire, too.



Livestock Guardian Dog Preparation

Importance of Socialization and Handling: In the case of the above-cited California fire where the LGD was left behind with goats to die, the argument many cited was that “the dog refused to leave his goats,” inferring that this was the reason the dog was left behind. The fact that a LGD wants to stay with the stock it is protecting is never a reason or an excuse to leave behind a LGD! Responsible LGD owners know this, and have a plan in place to move dog and stock out of the way of dangerous flames.

If there ever was an argument for rearing LGD pups hands on with daily human interaction and socialization, this is it. I live with a large pack of LGDs, many of whom weigh well in excess of 200 pounds. I am able to safely leash or halter all of my dogs, and have them come with me calmly and quietly. No “hands off, don’t ever touch” methods here, and safe evacuation during a fire is just one of a plethora of reasons why. How could anyone expect to shepherd their dogs and flocks out of the path of oncoming fires, when their LGDs run or flee at the sight of a human because they are afraid of them, because they’ve never been handled or barely touched by man?

As inconceivable as it may be to some, there are still many LGD owners (and breeders) who still subscribe to this sorely outdated practice. Promoted by early LGD researcher, the late Ray Coppinger, who claimed touching or handling LGDs would somehow diminish or “ruin” their guarding instincts, sadly this much ballyhooed and disproved bad “science” went on to become mantra in the USA. Strongly discouraged now by respected authorities and organizations such as the American Sheep Industry, thankfully the past several years have seen a complete reversal of this theory as most LGD owners realize, the ability to handle a guardian dog safely is paramount to safe, responsible ownership and use. It’s been shown time and again that regular handling, socialization and kindness from owners in no way shape or form, diminishes a good guardian dog’s protective instincts. Be smart – buy and use only safe, socialized and handled LGDs. Keep them that way by regular interaction with them! You need not turn them into obedience champs who’ll sit, lie down or do tricks on command, either. Simply having a dog that can be safely approached, collared and/or leashed or harnessed and led, is enough. Why?

An LGD who can be caught, leashed and/or harnessed by it’s owner, can be safely led out of a field, paddock or corral by the owner, while others can get behind the flock of sheep or goatherd, and shepherd them along as the LGD and owner lead the way out of the endangered area either to a waiting trailer. By doing this, the dog is still with his charges. He’s happy – he’s still with his flock and does not stress out over being separated from them. You bring both dogs and livestock to safety. Assuming the owner owns a stock trailer, the dog and sheep or goats can be loaded up in the trailer together and hauled away from the approaching fire.

Chuck Avila, above with his Spanish Mastiff Zaca modeling a humane,
easy to use halter. If your LGD is "collar and leash shy", consider trying a halter such as Chuck uses here. This way you have a method to be able to bring your dog along in the event of a disaster or fire.


Practice Makes Perfect: Trailering up LGDs and stock need not be a chaotic and stressful event. Some dry practice runs can make it routine. Bring your stock trailer close to the paddock where your livestock is. Collar and/or harness up your LGD and lead him into the trailer and then once inside, give him a treat – I mean a real treat too, like a raw chicken leg, a chunk of beef heart or his favorite edible reward, what ever it may be. Lots of praise and calming talk will add to the dog’s comfort and he’ll soon associate going into the trailer with a positive – not negative – experience. Shepherd in a few sheep or goats as you do this so that they learn to trailer as well. If you take them off feed for several hours before doing this, by placing some grain or a flake of hay in the trailer, you can more easily entice the sheep or goats to jump in and dine. By doing this you also make trailering a treat for them, too. Stay calm and relaxed, make it a “fun” time and include all family members in this prep work so anyone is able to do this. By making it routine, it’ll be less stressful when the time comes for real evacuation, and everyone will be less stressed because they’ve done this many times. Advance preparation like this a few times a year can make all the difference in the time of a crisis and help things to run much more smoothly. Proactive planning aces panicked reaction every time!

No Stock Trailer? No Problem: What if you don’t own a stock trailer or means to haul your dog and livestock? Well, think about investing in one; even if it is a used “old banger” that can still provide safe transportation. But if even that is not on the radar for you financially, there are other options: neighbors with trailers may be able to loan you one, or you can set up an evacuation plan that includes them swinging by your farm or homestead to pick up your stock after theirs are safely trailered up. I know this is part of my evacuation plan after I had to disburse of my gooseneck trailer – I have options.

But say that isn’t an option in your case, either. This is where some smart planning and preparation come in. By drawing up a map of your property with it’s gates and surrounding roads, you can draw up evacuation plans that can immediately be put into action in the event of a fire. Review it at least once a year to keep it fresh in your mind, and implement any changes that may come up with new fencing or construction. Depending on what direction the fire is approaching from, you can draw up an evacuation plan of safely bringing your LGDs and stock out of outer fields, into smaller corrals or barns, and then shepherded out of a gate into the open or roads that will lead away from the fire.

Where I live the country is huge and there are large tracts of unfenced land that are Bureau of Land Management or US Forest Service. In the event of a range fire, many ranchers here are unable to load up their large number of cattle or sheep in trailers fast enough to get them out of the path of oncoming flames. So the “open the gates and let them out” plan is what is used. Ranchers in my area will throw open all the gates, and if time allows, push stock out into the open range or roads where the stock can then move out of the way of the fire.

Typically in my area, many roads are lined with fences of adjoining properties so stock can be easily and safely driven down the road without scattering to the four winds. But even if these were not present, the main goal is still met; as the stock will by nature, want to go in the direction that is away from the flames. By doing this a large band of sheep or commercial goat herd and its guardian dogs can be shepherded to safety by herders; cattle can be moved by buckaroos on horseback to a safer area. In many cases, barbed wire fences are cut and pulled down so stock is never trapped against a fence line in front of advancing flames. In other words, if we can’t get all the stock out, we set it up so the stock can at the very least, get themselves out to safety. It’s considered common sense in my neck of the woods – and compassionate and responsible. No leaving behind to die!

Be Proactive and Pay Attention

In this electronic age where even ranchers, homesteaders and hobby farmers are seemingly glued to televisions, computers and smart phones, many “pre-Internet dinosaur” folks in the agriculture arena shake their heads at the seeming increase in lack of common sense amongst many people who are new to ranching and farming. Don’t become a “cyber shepherd” who is too busy posting to Facebook to pay attention what’s going on around them in the real world. Don’t depend on social media to keep you safe! Use your eyes, ears and nose – you know, the “pre Internet” tools your body was equipped with to keep you alive. Watch the horizon, take note of wind shifts and follow your nose when you smell smoke. Watch your animals. Are they telling you something by the way they are suddenly acting strangely? Do they smell smoke when you don’t?

Establish a network with your neighbors and a phone tree and keep tabs on where fires are. Only foolish farmers have the attitude that “it won’t come this far” or, “I don’t need to worry.” Always plan for the worst. Never assume you’ll be safe, never procrastinate and never use the excuse that “well, it just came up on us too fast” to cruelly abandon animals behind to die horrific deaths. Be proactive and creative in your plans. Create defensible space around buildings, barns, haystacks, outbuildings, homes. Make sure waterlines are operational and always have your stock tanks topped off with water. Make sure your Livestock Guardian Dogs can be safely handled, collared and leashed or harnessed, to lead to safety along with your livestock. Unplug from Internet farming and get in touch with the real world around you and plan for the worst so when it happens, you, your loved ones, your livestock and your precious four legged protectors will live through a crisis. It takes some planning, some common sense and work but it will repay you in the end with precious lives saved.


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Tools of the Trade: the Shepherd’s Crook or Staff

Ancient in it’s origin and use, the humble wooden shepherd’s crook or staff is typically found in the hand of shepherds in the Old World as they trail along their flocks in the age old practice of transhumance – moving huge bands of sheep across mountains and plains in seasonal search for grazing and food. Crooks now come in a variety of sizes and shapes and can be metal or wood. Every shepherd and sheep owner should have one. Besides giving you support as you stand and walk, they come in handy when it’s time to catch or drive sheep into a chute or trailer. During an emergency evacuation, a crook can help you catch and move sheep when it matters most. They can be bought in some feed stores and online by such companies as Premier 1 Supplies. Here is an informative article about the many types and uses for shepherds crooks: https://www.premier1supplies.com/list.php?mode=article&cat_id=5



Tuesday, November 28, 2017

Livestock Guardian Dogs and California Goat Operation Buck the Odds in Large Predator Country

Bears, Lions and Goats: Oh My!
California Goat Operation
Bucks the Odds in Large Predator Country
© 2017 Brenda M. Negri
and ACRES USA Magazine. 

Above: Bigfoot? No, just one of the very large bears in the neighborhood…
Below: The Shields departing my ranch with a sibling pair of Spanish Mastiff pups.



What’s the daily grind like for a commercial goat grazier or weed control operation sitting thick in the middle of extreme-predator load country, where each day is a test of mettle, endurance and smarts of man, goats, and Livestock Guardian Dogs (LGDs)?

Friends and LGD customers Roberta and JR Shields who live and ranch in the historic Gold Rush country in Columbia, California, are achieving what some would say is impossible: zero losses of stock to predators – in a heavier than usual predator load arena - with the use of LGDs and other non-lethal predator control.

The Shields goatherd consists of 200 head of a mix of purebred registered and commercial Boer and Boer and Nubian cross goats who live full time in the middle of a predator load that reads like a multi-course menu of potential death and destruction: black bear, mountain lion, coyote, feral and domestic dog packs, bobcats, foxes, rattlesnakes and birds of prey (Bald Eagles, Golden Eagles and ravens.)



Tough Country Not for Faint of Heart

Former cattle ranchers for 20 years; 10 years owning goats; for the past twelve months the Shields have had a contract grazing goats on 1200 acres of brush on a mine operation in the steep, rough Stanislaus River canyon. “Of the 1200 acres, probably only 20% of it is flat and/or clear,” Roberta says. Chock full of Manzanita, oaks, and the invasive Himalayan blackberry, this rough, daunting landscape is not for the faint of heart rancher. It’s not just the terrain and predators that’s a killer, either: the area is loaded with poisonous plants such as nightshade, hemlock, buckeyes and oleanders. The goats provide fuel reduction for the mine in an area that’s suffered many huge, devastating fires. Blue Mountain Minerals produces limestone and dolomite for the agriculture industry on 300 acres of the property and recognize the value of grazing the goats on their property in terms of safety. Less brush is less fuel for fires.

The Shields sell their wethers to a commercial facility in the central valley for meat. They kid out their breeding does in March. “We source our goats from local (Northern California) breeders,” Roberta says. “We have three large sales in close proximity to us that sell very well bred, nice breeding stock.”

Above: Some of the dog crew. Quality makes a difference: the Shields have purchased seven LGDs from me over the years. My unique LGD breeding program which is founded on pack rearing of litters, breeding only top genetics and proven purebred lines have paid off with success. 

Packing Up With LGDs

The Shields first came to my Nevada ranch several years ago to buy LGD pups to add to their existing LGD pack. They took home two sibling pups and returned for several more sets of sibling pairs and adult dogs over the years - a whopping total of seven dogs from me (!) including others. The breeds they have run and/or run currently include purebred Kuvasz, Maremma, and Anatolians; two purebred Spanish Mastiffs, four Spanish Mastiff x Maremma x Anatolian crosses, a purebred Pyrenean Mastiff, and two Border Collie herding dogs. They appreciate the variety of breeds and what each breed or cross brings to the table in terms of guarding style, unique individual temperaments and travelling ability. They also know the sensibility of running enough LGDs to do the job right.

“The lighter breeds and crosses we run can cover more ground in this very steep country, and typically work the perimeters and patrol farther out,” Roberta says, “while the heavier mastiff breeds stick closer to the herd, bedding down with them. I like this because it means the goats are covered both from afar and up close. If a predator breaks through the first line of defense, they then have to contend with some even bigger dogs waiting for them with the goats.”

In addition to guarding goats, the Shields LGDs also guard 300 beehives that winter over from Gillette Wyoming, before going into the valley to be placed in almond groves. The mine property sits above fog line, and is much warmer than the Wyoming winters. The dogs keep the hives – which are big money, Roberta says – safe from marauding bears.

By running a large and diverse pack, the Shields claim it’s allowed them to suffer zero goat losses. In a country rife with large predators now moving in closer because of several years of bad fires, this feat is indeed rare, but not impossible. It takes planning and a lot of work, but can be done.

“Neighbors near us who do not run LGDs suffer regular, sometimes catastrophic losses of sheep, cattle and goats,” Roberta states. “You can’t bring pups into a situation where you are already losing livestock – it’s too late for that. You need grown, broke dogs. Too many people make that mistake.”

Indeed, a recurring theme I see in the LGD scene lately are people who are losing livestock and, in a panic, buy usually one, solo pup thinking somehow it’ll perform miracles. It won’t, and will most likely end up an easy meal for a large predator. The time to buy LGDs is before you need them, not when you are suffering losses. It is a long-term commitment that pays off later – not right away. Dogs, being by nature pack animals, should be run together in pairs, trios or more, especially in situations such as the Shields live in and face.

Roberta further states: “Predators are unique to each place we graze. Most numbers are cyclic. Bear numbers have been increasing since hunting them with dogs became illegal and they have not had a disease outbreak to decrease the population.” When bigger predators increase, it also means the smaller predators decrease, as they are pressured out by the competition for food. “The drought California experienced in the last couple of years caused the bears not to hibernate which put increased pressure on food sources,” Shields adds.

Above: Bear feasting on game.


Opening Cars Like Tin Cans

Lately bears have been breaking into Gold Country homes, crashing through sliding glass doors and ripping out metal garage doors to get to food. Bears often associate cars with food, and “open them like tin cans,” Roberta muses. “A lot of people feed deer around here. They buy grain with molasses and voila, there’s your bear magnet.” Meanwhile, when they feed “Bambi,” this in turn attracts the lions. Roberta further states, “At some point, the deer stop migrating and stay with the food source – the grain – and so do the lions. People then wonder why the big cats come in to their yard. They don’t get that they’ve actually created their own problem.”

Lions now regularly venture into foothill towns and kill pet dogs and cats, and have even been caught stalking people as they jogged or walked on roads. It’s not just lions and bears, either that threaten the Shield’s goatherd. A huge rattlesnake recently showed up in their kidding pen, and had it not been the frantic alert barking of her LGDs, could have struck and bitten newborn kids and would have probably killed them. “Those good dogs got extra juicy bones that night!” Roberta chuckles.

“California banned Mountain Lion hunting in 1990,” Roberta says. “No longer do we have wild herds of Elk or Antelope, and with a declining deer population, food sources can become extremely scarce for large predators, whose population is on the increase. There is only so much native habitat, and it’s decreasing with more and more development. This in turn pushes big predators closer to humans living in rural small acreage hobby farms and in foothill towns.”

When that happens, livestock losses skyrocket. Long time Tuolumne County Wildlife Specialist Ron Anderson has seen an explosion in livestock deaths as people move out in the rough and steep country to “get back to the farm,” yet don’t prepare, or worse, are seemingly clueless about the predator situation and don’t set their places up to protect their herds and flocks. Ron regularly offers exclusion methods to farmers on how to protect goats against large predators. That includes the use of guardian dogs and electric fence, but they don’t always listen, or when they finally do, sometimes it’s already too late.

Above: A bob cat comes to a lion kill.

When Guardian Dogs Fail

In the lower elevations where the bigger predators are not as populous, coyotes are the main problem. Anderson has literally sat in a field and watched packs of coyotes bait guardian dogs. “They get some coyote pups to start yelping off behind some brush. The LGDs run to the sound of that,” he says, “while the rest of the coyote pack circles around, kills the sheep or goat, and drags it off even before the guardian dogs can come back and see what has happened. Yes, they are that smart.” This is why it is so important to run enough LGDs to do the job, not just the minimum – and stagger them in ages so mature dogs are there to show adolescents and pups the ropes and back them up. Puppies cannot do the job of an adult dog – so don’t expect them to, or prepare to lose some goats.

But how to explain livestock losses when LGDs are there on guard duty? Ron recently went to a small hobby ranch that lost several goats to a Mountain Lion. They were running a couple of LGDs, yet still lost several goats. The area was not prone to lion attacks, and Ron thinks that the lack of regular predator presence, i.e., threat pressure, may have contributed to the dog’s inability or refusal to effectively stop the lion. “They weren’t up to practice, or lacked confidence they needed to stop the lion,” he muses. “Maybe it’s because they don’t engage with enough threats; maybe they lose their boldness or become confused or afraid, I don’t know. But I often see this out here, LGDs who don’t cut the grade, and you wonder if it’s not due to a combination of bad management, inexperienced owners, poor breeding and a lack of practice or exposure to threats.”

I’m willing to take it even further than that: I think Roberta’s LGD use has been to date, 100% effective, while others there have failed, for a reason that transcends predator pressure and even the use of the right number of proven working LGDs out of good bloodlines. Each dog she purchased from me was raised in a huge pack of LGDs that has numbered from eleven to twenty-five dogs on my ranch. My LGDs that she owns learned to work as a team and a fluid, cooperative pack from puppyhood; they were immersed in pack life since birth. That in turn made them able to effectively and confidently work side by side with other dogs, and back each other up; in doing so, they are more willing to go the extra mile to guard stock and confront predators. It gives them the added self-confidence they need. I’ve long argued that pack raised LGDs are more self assured and savvy than those who are not reared up in a pack, and the Shields’ dogs may be my star proof of that theory.

And in big predator country, forget using donkeys or llamas to keep livestock safe because they are just another meal for a big bruin, a pack of wolves or ravenous cat. “Ron said just two farms down from where the goats were killed by the lion, two guardian llamas were killed. The sheep they were guarding weren’t touched, but the llamas paid the ultimate price,” Roberta adds.

Above: Forget using guardian donkeys or llamas here….

Words of Wisdom

I asked Roberta if she could share some tips with readers running goats in large predator country.

LGDs: “Even if you buy two LGD puppies, with big predators its not going to work,” Roberta adds. “You have to start before you have predators because it takes time for the goats and pups to bond, and for the pups to mature.”

“But LGDs are not for everyone,” Roberta says, and truly, they are not. Some people are not “dog people” or lack the time, patience and resources to raise, train, feed and keep healthy an adequate number of guardian dogs to do the job right, and should consider other means to keep their goats safe. If the goat operator does use LGDs, “Invest time in getting a working relationship with the dogs and get them bonded to your goats well. In the long run it will be a huge savings of time and money if your dogs work,” she says.

Fencing: “Too many people try to put goats in places that are fenced with old cattle wood or metal “T” posts and barbed wire type fences. It’s bad for both goats and LGDs. Dogs will push through and run amok and so will the goats. You must have good fences to contain goats and dogs both or it’s a waste of time.” She is a big fan of electric net fencing as it keeps predators out and goats in. “For our night pen, we double net in bad locations for Mountain Lions. We use tall horse net, then goat net, three feet part. A double barrier – and it works.”

Good Shepherding: Roberta goes on to say “People must be vigilant and pay attention to what is happening. Being successful here is not easy and we often literally sleep out with the goats in tents when we have to. We are always here, watching, checking, aware of where our goats and our LGDs are. I see way too many people blaming goats escaping on their LGDs when it is in fact, their own poor or total lack of shepherding, and/or incomplete or bad fences that are the cause of the problem.”

“Use everything you can to mitigate for livestock losses. It is something that is preventable. Electric fence, flagging or fladry, LGDs, full time herders, patrols, game cameras – before and during the introduction of goats; use night pens that are ‘bullet proof.’”

Goats Are Like Potato Chips: Roberta recommends, “Do not let your goatherd become a food source because, just like potato chips, a predator won’t stop at just one. Once they have a taste of tame game they’ll be there for good. They will return time and again to dine on your goats while ignoring wild game like deer. Keep those predators wild and depending on wild food sources, not your goats. Don’t put sweet grain out for deer or other small wildlife and invite them to stay because the predators seeking them as a food source, will be right behind them.”

The Shield’s commitment to using a variety of predator deterrents, good fencing, dedicated shepherding and an investment in good LGDs over a period of several years, is now paying off in spades. All their efforts are keeping them casualty-free in a predator heavy area rife with livestock loss. If you’re running goats in big predator country, with hard work, good shepherding and a solid predator deterrent plan in place such as the Shields’, their success story could be yours, too.

Above: Puppy Training 101. Roberta is hands on, involved, and handles the pups and dogs daily.
Their LGD pack knows their owners are involved and backing them up.


Above: A lion caught on film. Night penning goats with a double set of electric hot fences and serious top-notch working LGDs has kept the Shields' extensive goat operation fatality free.
Below: LGDs alerted to this huge rattler in the kidding pen; the Shields were able to kill the snake before it could strike and injure or kill a goat kid.





Resources & References:

Adding New Dogs into an Existing Livestock Guardian Dog Pack by Brenda M. Negri, Sheep! Magazine, Nov/Dec, Vol. 38, No. 6. https://countrysidenetwork.com/topics/livestock-topics/sheep-livestock-topics/adding-new-dogs/
Farm Show Magazine, Pack Raised Guardian Dogs Work Harder, (2012, Vol. 36, No. 4), by Brenda M. Negri https://www.farmshow.com/a_article.php?aid=25763 A brief article about my LGD operation where pack rearing pups is stressed, and how it results in superior working LGDs.
People and Carnivores, www.peopleandcarnivores.org. This Bozeman, Montana based group works with ranchers, hunters, rural residents and scientists to keep large carnivores in the wild, and away from livestock and out of trouble.
Wolves on the Landscape: A Hands-on Resource Guide to Reduce Depredations. Excellent tips for stockmen in large predator country.



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