Tuesday, May 30, 2017

Livestock Guardian Dog Feeding Station

Livestock Guardian Dog Feeding Station

A Texas Cinco Deseos Ranch customer constructs a sturdy structure that keeps goats out 
and her LGD's dog food pest free, dry and available 24/7

© 2017 Brenda M. Negri




 A top notch job: my Texas LGD customer completing her LGD feeding station.  Quality work and materials ensured this station will live a long and productive life allowing her hard working LGDs safe access 24/7 to food.  This station allows her dogs to eat even when she is not there to feed them.


Goats will eat just about anything, and that includes your LGD's valuable dog food.  Not all operations are set up or able to leave dog food out 24/7 for their hard working guardians.  Too many operators often assume their dogs are getting enough food when in reality, their goats are stealing it. 

A hungry LGD soon has other things on his mind other than protecting his goats: namely, survival and food to quell his hunger.  Don't let this happen to your dog.

A customer of mine in Texas found a solution in constructing a sturdy, raised and covered station that keeps her large commercial goat herd out, while allowing her four Cinco Deseos Ranch bred LGDs access to their food under a canopy that provides shade and protection from sun and rain.  The unique triangle entry door keeps goats out while allowing her large dogs access to the food.  The raised floor makes for sturdy footing and a repellant to insects. The photos show you the construction of this elegant, sturdy yet relatively simple plan that has worked well for her in heavy brush and predator load country.  

Unique inverted triangle allows her large Spanish Mastiff cross LGDs access to food, but foils goats.
The no-climb type field fencing with small holes keeps out large varmints such as raccoons and rabbits, and feral hogs cannot access the food.

Raised floor keeps insects, dirt and mud out.
A first rate job that has paid off!





Saturday, May 27, 2017

Quick Fix For Lazy Shepherds: Texas Livestock Guardian Dog Study a Study in How Not To Run LGDs

Instead of focusing on responsible shepherd training, using safe dogs that can be caught and handled and run in appropriate numbers, the researchers at Texas A & M University went the easy route - and in doing so, flunked out.  A  few successes didn't negate the severity of the failures, and as usual, the poor dogs paid for it in the end - this always happens when someone demeans them and treats them like disposable tools without proper risk management, respect or compassion. 

©Brenda M. Negri




The results are in from Texas A&M's LGD experiment, and overall, in spite of what their gushing press releases to Texas newspapers may be crowing, they aren't pretty.

If you've time to burn - it'll take you about an hour to really comb through all the results - then pour yourself a stiff, cool drink (make it a double), sit down and read all the results.  Some of the descriptions honestly, are stomach turning in terms of what happened to the poor dogs.  Granted, on what sounded like smaller, well fenced operations, there were some successes.  A couple of ranchers indicated they'd like to try it again.  But.  With changes.  Lots of changes.

But overall?  The results were dismal, at best.  They could have done so much better.  Ah, but this is academia!  They can basically spend lots of money just to tell most of us what we already knew.

Of course these dogs can work.  But you need to know how to run them right.

You also need to be able to safely catch and handle your dogs.  Apparently that one got by them.  The breeder they chose is infamous for rearing hands-off, nearly feral dogs.

Successful LGD use entails BIG participation and commitment from an owner who will show up more than the one participating rancher did - only once every two weeks, on 5,000 acres.  Good God, man!

An addendum:  I sadly noted they took a cruel, lazy shepherd cue from Canadian Louise Liebenberg and advocated the ridiculous use of cumbersome PVC pipes affixed to a dog's neck.  When I read that, it sealed it for me: epic fail.  Ironic how someone like Louise can blatantly mistreat LGDs yet get certified as being "predator friendly", isn't it?

Here's my Facebook response below to both of the gentlemen behind this experiment.  I also sent it via E mail.  Another respected LGD breeder also contacted them and chastised them for their flawed experiment.

Of course they never responded to me, or to her.  And I may have caught them slightly plagiarizing copyrighted material, no less.

Maybe they're making out like Donald Trump, and lawyering up.

Or maybe the Russians were behind this…..ya think?  (wink wink wink)

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Cinco Deseos Ranch Livestock Guardian Dogs commented on an article.


There are two crucial factors that your study/experiment failed on – actually, more than that. But the two biggest “epic fails”:

The importance of socializing and handling LGDs, and running them in the appropriate numbers.


My paper on running LGDs in the correct numbers was published by sheep! MAGAZINE in their May/June 2013 issue. http://spanishmastiff.blogspot.com/…/the-numbers-game-guard… It was the first article ever written to solely discuss and give advice on how to figure out the right number of LGDs to run on an operation. A shame you didn’t avail yourself to it and use the valuable advice I gave.
Upon reading your study I can advise you that most of your operators were severely under dogged. Only two dogs on a combo of 5,000 acres? No. The “two dogs per 1,000 head of sheep” rule is archaic and out of date and does not hold water. In Spain herders sometimes run 12-15 dogs. They also stay with flocks, and suffer minimal if no losses. They responsibly participate. They are hands on. The description of some of these Texas operations sounds as if they just dump sheep out in the wild, close a gate and walk away. No wonder their lamb crops are so dismal. Poor stock management at it’s best.

 Secondly and just as important is the ability to safely handle, catch and interact with LGDs. I know who you bought your dogs from; 5R and I actually share clients in common. Unlike my operation, 5R does not socialize their pups and they are typically frightened, unstable, feral acting, skittish and cannot be handled or caught. And you chose him? Well, that's part of why your study is a failure: http://spanishmastiff.blogspot.com/…/why-so-many-lgd-owners…

http://spanishmastiff.blogspot.com/search… This paper I wrote was published in sheep! Magazine in 2015. That you bought dogs from a breeder who practices the now very strongly frowned upon “hands off” type of rearing, almost sounds as if you were setting this up to fail. Again, what were you thinking? Or were you?

You also mentioned the Working Dog Liabilty Insurance program in a press release about one of your seminars in May. The American Sheep Industry owned insurance companies hired me as an LGD consultant to help develop and implement that program and I wrote the Loss Prevention Manuals for it. I gather you didn’t read them, or if you did, the advice didn’t click. Too bad. https://workingdogliabilityinsurancedotcom.wordpress.com

Unfortunately, your operators who participated are also “hands off”. What I mean by that is they are never there. Checking on sheep and dogs every two weeks is hardly effective shepherding nor is it prudent in predator country, and thus I was not surprised to learn that the dogs were in poor condition, underfed and hungry, eating lambs, leaving the area, disappearing, trespassing onto other’s properties (which begs the question, why wasn’t good fencing made one of the requisites of LGD ownership?). This is not how these dogs are meant to be used. They are not a hammer or saw. They are living animals that require care and responsible management.

You are trying to turn them into a ‘quick fix for lazy shepherds’.

In short: your study broke no new ground in the LGD world, and only served to further exemplify what happens when these dogs are not run correctly by incompetent handlers in not enough numbers. Perhaps you will think about approaching other sources for dogs and advice in the future, obtain help from someone who runs these dogs correctly. Do it right or stick to studying goats and sheep – when it comes to knowing what you are doing with Guardian Dogs, obviously you are turning to the wrong sources for basing your methods and methodology on. I pity the poor dogs used in this project.

---- Brenda M. Negri Cinco Deseos Ranch Livestock Guardian Dogs, Winnemucca, Nevada www.lgdnevada.com











Tuesday, May 16, 2017

Using Herding and Livestock Guardian Dogs Together




Using Herding and Guardian Dogs Together
Simple Guidelines to Build a Great Team


Copyright 2015 Brenda M. Negri

Sheep! Magazine
July/August 2015 


Many stockmen rely on both herding dogs and Livestock Guardian Dogs to help them in their day to day operations.  A frequent question heard from many is “How do I run and use them both together?  Won’t it cause problems?”  It can be done.  Much of your success or difficulties will stem from the upbringing, quality and background of the dogs used, in combination with your willingness to be patient and committed, and understanding the differences between these two types of dogs.

Livestock Guardian Dogs are by nature, protectors.  They do not tolerate any stray dogs, predators or anything that could potentially harm their flocks and herds.  They guard livestock.  They don’t herd it, move it or ‘work’ it. In fact, any type of ‘prey drive’ or an urge to chase livestock, is considered a glaring fault in a LGD, and is never encouraged.  They mingle calmly within the stock, lying within a flock, or patrolling the fence line for trouble.  They watch the perimeter for threats and tenderly nurture lambs and goat kids.  Although occasionally some LGDs may try to help move stock, it is not their true purpose or trait.  Gentle giants, they are there to keep your livestock alive and safe, not relocate it.

Herding breeds on the other hand, do just that: they move livestock for their handler from one pasture, field or pen to another.  Sometimes the move can be miles.  They typically crouch low, show “eye” or very focused eye contact with the stock, and stalk it, moving when directed by the handler, and pushing the sheep, goats or cattle where directed.  With cattle, the dogs may stay behind the herd nipping at its heels moving it over several acres or miles on a drive.  Herding dogs are typically very active, high energy, in some cases extremely intense and of a nervous nature, and happiest when hard at work.

This type of latter behavior, when seen by a working LGD, is perceived to be a threat to his stock. And who can blame him?  For it appears as though the herding dog may be stalking his sheep, in preparation to pounce on them and inflict harm.

So how do you mix these two diverse types of dogs?  Some simple suggestions and guidelines follow.

 Herding dogs should never be worked in a flock or herd when the LGDs are present and “on duty”.  LGDs can easily kill a much smaller herding breed, and will - if they perceive the herders as a threat.  So before using the herders, keep them kenneled up, in a trailer or in your truck.

 Before you release any herding dogs, remove the LGDs from the flock.  Lock them up in a barn or horse trailer, where they preferably cannot have any visuals of the herding dogs in the sheep or goats.  Treating them with a big soup bone is a way to ease their stress over being removed from their job and can assist in calming them so they don’t tear your barn down trying to return to the flock.

Once all your moving or sorting of stock is done, put your herding dogs back up in their kennels, trailer or truck, out of sight of the LGDs.  Then you can release your LGDs back into the herd.

Can you rear them up from puppyhood together so that they get along?  Yes - with patience and by setting some simple rules.  Many folks successfully mingle their herding and LGD dogs outside of the livestock.  It can definitely be done if the dogs have been raised together and have tolerance of each other.  Just don’t mix play or “down time” with work. 

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COMMON SENSE, TRIED AND TRUE TIPS:

*** If raised from puppyhood together, make sure you train them separately.  LGDs are bred to be calm, quiet, protectors with good judgment.  They are not supposed to be hyperactive and chasing lambs. You do NOT want an LGD with prey drive or "eye".
***When you spend time with your LGD pups in the flock, make sure the focus is on them being calm and comfortable with the livestock.  Drag a chair in there, sit down and relax as you praise good behavior and correct undesired behavior.  The pups will pick up on your calm state and mirror this.  That’s what you want!
***Keep the herding pups out of sight - again, penning them up in another area, away from the stock.  Again, a juicy soup bone can be a “miracle worker” with pups, and  keeps them content and quiet while you are schooling your LGD pups.
***Likewise when it is training time for the herders, remove the LGD pups from the area and keep them out of sight and if possible hearing range as well, as you work your herder pup on his or her verbal and hand cues and commands.
***Once lessons are done, bring the herders out of the stock.  Once outside of the stock the two sets of pups can again mingle and play.

Many people have success with their LGDs living peaceably alongside their herders as long as boundaries are set and some simple rules are followed and reinforced by you with consistency and respect.  And of course, you are an integral part of this training process.  This does not happen on its own - it takes patience and consistency on your part.  Set up a schedule each day, and do your puppy drills.  Dogs are like people: they like comfort and consistency in their lives, too. Don’t ask more than these dogs can give. Don’t expect your Kelpie to protect your flock from coyotes because they can’t.  Don’t press your Great Pyrenees to play herder: it’s not their role.  Respect the purpose and roles each type of dog has, and you’ll be rewarded in the long run with a great team of workers who help you move your stock when needed, and keep them safe.


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Partial List of Recognized Herding Dog Breeds
Border Collie
Australian Kelpie (Kelpie or Barb)
McNab
Pembroke Welsh Corgi (Pembroke, Corgi)
Australian Queensland Heeler (Red/Blue Queensland Heeler, Australian Cattle Dog)
Catahoula Leopard Dog (Catahoula Cur, Catahoula Hog Dog)
Black Mouthed Cur
Old English Sheepdog
Australian Shepherd (Aussie)
Belgian Tehurven (Chien de Berger Belge)

Partial List of Recognized Livestock Guardian Dog Breeds

Great Pyrenees (Pyrenean Mountain Dog)
Akbash (Akbas)
Anatolian Shepherd
Spanish Mastiff (Mastin Espanol)
Tibetan Mastiff (Do-Khyi)
Pyrenean Mastiff (Mastin de los Pirineos)
Komodor
Turkish Kangal (Kangal Copegi)
Kuvasz
Maremma (Il Pastore Maremmano Abruzzese)
Polish Tatra Sheepdog (Polski Owczarek Podhalanski)
Central Asian Ovcharka
Caucasian Asian Ovcharka (CAO)
Bukovina Shepherd
Karakachan (Bulgarian Shepherd Dog)
Sarplaninac (Illyrian Sheepdog)
Tornjak (Hrvatski Ovcar)
South Russian Ovcharka
Armenian Gampr
Carpathian Shepherd
Cao de Gado Transmontano
Estrela Mountain Dog
Central Asian Shepherd
Slovak Cuvac (Slovensky Cuvac)
Sage Koochee
Rafeiro do Alentejo (Portuguese Watch Dog)
Mioritic Sheepdog
Karst Shepherd (Kraski Ovcar)
Greek Sheepdog
Kars Dog
Cao de Castro Laboreiro (Portuguese Cattle Dog)

Monday, May 15, 2017

Cinco Deseos Ranch LGDs Keep Goats Safe from Rattlesnake



© Copyright 2017 Brenda M. Negri

Another Cinco Deseos Ranch Livestock Guardian Dog success story!  

A client who is a commercial goat rancher that contracts out on big weed and brush control jobs in Northern California contacted me today with a huge "saved the day" story about my LGDs. She owns seven LGDs from me: two purebred Spanish Mastiffs, one purebred Pyrenean Mastiff, and several crosses (1/2 Spanish Mastiff 1/4 Maremma 1/4 Anatolian).  Three of the dogs were re-homed to her from another client in Texas who had to move and could no longer keep her livestock.  The dogs fit right in and, as she writes below, are doing fabulous.

Here's her story on how her LGDs alerted she and her husband to a huge rattler in her goat kidding pens.  It could have struck and killed any of her goats!

Brenda:  

We have just finished kidding and have 3 bottle babies.  Not bad out of 118.  I am just glad it is over and we can get on with brush clearing.

I have a great lgd story to tell you that involves these pictures (taken with a cheap crappy cell phone).

My X bred girls and 1 mastiff are in a large pasture with pens and huts that the moms and babies are in.  The pens are 5 x 10 with mom and babies in each.  It is about 10 AM Ginger (Spanish Mastiff) is having a fit, barking and running from gate to pens.  Sage and Jazz (SM crossbred girls) are snarling in the corner by the pens but can’t see from the gate only hear hair raising growling.  My husband grabs his rifle (assuming it is a large mammal trying to eat goats) hunter must have big gun.  He goes down by the pens and sees Sage engaging this snake.  It is inside the pen less than 5 ft. from 2 baby goats.  She has it striking at her trying to get it out but it will not leave the corner of the pen.  JR reaches the rifle barrel in the pen and shoots the snake.  He goes to the shop and gets a hoe, bucket,  and biscuits.  Emergency over.  This snake has 12 buttons on it, is almost as big as my forearm and is 53” long.  I doubt it could eat a baby goat but it sure could have killed it with a bite.  How do they know all this stuff?  To distract that snake or even realize it was a threat.  Hell it is hard to see in those pictures and I know it is there.  I guess they could probably smell it. What good girls.

My Texas dogs are all doing good.  It took some time to re-adjust to their new home.  Angel (Pyrenean Mastiff) has turned out to be the best dog.  She has a large pen of yearlings to look after.  I have not had any trouble with her getting out of fences and she seems to genuinely enjoy her job.  So sweet and always happy and bouncing.  The boys (Spanish Mastiff, Maremma, Anatolian) got the big snip and things are much quieter.  I have not put them together but they have had a common fence.  They will play run up and down and seem glad to see each other.  My vet had to use a horse stall because they did not fit in her kennel.  Each weighs 160# with nothing but muscle.  They are intimidating with their size but the girls are the ones I would not want to cross.  They are always thinking.

Hope things are good with you.  I am still trying to get some dog pictures but I never seem to have a camera when I need one.

Take care,
Roberta in Sonora

Two of Roberta's "snake charmers"below; the day they went home with them to California.
Cinco Deseos Ranch "B" Litter, Xanto Tornado Erben x Crisa de Abelgas
World record matching 16 puppy litter



Tuesday, May 9, 2017

Vetting Out Livestock Guardian Dog Customers



Nazi Major Heinrich Strasser:     Which side you are on? 
French Captain Louis Renault:      I have no conviction, if that's what you mean. 
            I blow with the wind, and the prevailing wind happens to be from Vichy... 

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There's plenty of potentially good LGD customers out there but how do you find them amongst the bad ones?   Unfortunately there are too many "Captain Renault" type LGD customers these days: loyalty to their LGD breeder often evaporates the second they leave the breeder's place with a puppy.  Here are some vetting out tips on how responsible, serious LGD breeders can cut back on bad customer choices and help decrease their number of failed puppy placements.  

© 2017 by Brenda M. Negri


Early on in the classic 1942  film Casablanca, actor Claude Raines' opportunistic, mercenary and self-promoting character French Captain Louis Renault gives the audience no doubt about the level of his loyalty to anyone in his famous line, quoted above, when asked for his commitment and stance from Nazi Major Heinrich Strasser.  Renault bends like a willow in the wind in the direction that will give him the most perks, the most social status, and his loyalty to his own country France is debatable, at best.  Convictions?  What convictions?  Fidelity?  What's that?  Loyalty?  Not in war torn Vichy, which was infamous for cooperating with Nazi Germany's racial policies. 

To some of us, the fallout from the current obsession with social media based culture has become a cancer that is taking over agriculture in the form of bad breeders and fickle, "blow with the wind", uneducated LGD customers who balk at any expectations from their good LGD breeder.  Like Renault, they are opportunists.  They run with the crowd; they go for immediate gratification instead of any commitment to quality, patience and long term anything. Irresolute.  Fickle.  






LGD CUSTOMER LOYALTY


Customers keeping in touch with an LGD breeder used to be a given because they leaned on you for support - there were darned few sources out there to lean on.  The dozens and dozens of dubious Facebook LGD-this-and LGD-that groups did not exist yet, and only a handful of us seriously bred and produced these dogs.  

Not anymore.  LGDs sadly have become a fad.  If  you are an LGD breeder today, once your pup leaves your ranch, too often all promised communications from your customer cease as they flake out and jump on a Facebook LGD group of their choice where arm chair experts, fake ID accounts, cackling speculators and pseudo "experts" pontificiate ad nauseam. 

In other words, they bail on you, the breeder.  

The past few years I have seen this phenomenon worsen as many hobby farmers practically live online on forums and on Facebook, spending hours getting bad advice from fake people and nobodies rather than keeping in touch with their breeder who bred the dog(s) they own.  

It's international in scope.  Noted French LGD breeder and published author Mathieu Mauries has had a customer drop off the radar for years then suddenly contact him with a complaint about the dog they bought from him - I've had this happen too.  As if we are to blame for the customer's bad choices, lack of communication for months if not years, and God knows what else has happened in the time it took them to screw up our dog or pup, by relying on bad sources for help, and not leaning on us. 





Read the lament of a well known Spanish Mastiff breeder in Italy below:


Can I steal a second of your time? You can read my post? Thank you to everyone: the "occupation" of the farmer is not easy, it really takes a lot of passion, dedication, love and strength and physical and psychological if he really wants to do it properly and complete. The most difficult but it's not work in the rain or under 2 Feet of snow, it's not load every day 40 kg of turds and even preserve and properly guard the dogs with 30-36 degrees Heat... I will tell you it's not even the dogs on a daily basis to assist the elderly and disabled people or bring them urgently even at night to the vet for a twist... the most difficult, as far as we are concerned is the having to give away the puppies. Many are the questions what are we doing about the people who will be future owners but, despite gets a "screening" and check carefully asylum seekers, at times, you may be wrong in trusting people just balanced a puppy. These people for the ignorance that distinguishes, is capable of throwing mud and hate on a life's work, to unleash their psychic vortices, iracondi and greatly altered and to judge not only the dogs (of which they have had an experience on inconsistent To a maximum of 4 months) but the people who breed them. People whose actual attendance with us has not passed a maximum of 2 hours. Fortunately, the puppy is back home and we were shocked to see with how much joy and happiness overwhelming said hello, and she is back in the kennel... that's weird... for good luck is the prescription of drugs which they wanted to give you the owners. Despite the cub is back home and the ladies have been fully reimbursed, activities continue to slander, to discredit and to sow reviews and comments very unpleasant on us, on our way of life and our dogs. It can happen that you don't understand and you don't know how to handle an animal but we must also ask ourselves: the imbalance is of the dog or the owner? It seems clear that once we clean things up if it continues for months to persecute and insult someone, "maybe" the imbalance is the owner...
Thank you for your time. I would add that for reasons of privacy I see myself forced to remove the friendship from fb to people that they have in common the friendship with me and with these ladies that I have nothing against and I don't think ill of anyone who would want to stay in touch with them.

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Let's say you are an honest, serious (emphasis on the latter), committed LGD breeder  putting out reliable working dogs and you want to sell to only the best.  So where do you find them?  Blind luck?  Craigslist ads?  Depend on Facebook groups to find customers?  NO.  

You start by looking for customers off of the Internet - networking with real, live agriculture groups, your local extension agent, beef, lamb and/or goat groups and associations with "real" people, and you don't stop there.  You have expectations.  Those expectations should include expecting that your customers will have done their homework and research, be fairly intelligent, serious about commitment, and are able to discern good from bad.  And, you find them with an application process that helps you the breeder, find these things out. 

EXPECTATIONS OF CUSTOMERS - HAVE SOME

Hell yes, I have expectations of my customers.  I expect them to keep in touch and lean on me for support.  If the customer has an issue with that, I want to know that up front…and I won't sell to them.  The hallmark of a good breeder is that they expect a customer to lean on them and keep them posted about their pup.  Bad breeders are the ones who don't answer the phone or E mails, and fall off the map once a customer's check clears.  Plenty of them out there.

Sadly, in terms of customers, there's no way of predicting people going south on you and turning into the customer from hell.  It has happened to me, and it's happened to many.  At least having standards and a detailed application process cuts out most of the bottom feeders, flakes and bad homes.  Your typical dog fighter, scumbag, trailer trash person is not going to ever fill out an application like mine, nor will their references pan out.  

Below is my extensive Cinco Deseos Ranch Puppy Application.  Feel free to copy it, and/or use it as a base for your own application.  If more LGD breeders had higher expectations of customers, and did application processes like this one, there would be a fewer bad puppy placements with customers.  AND it'd eventually put many backyard junk breeders out of business because people would start seeing them for what and who they really are: junk producing, mercenary, cash cowing puppy mills who not worth the piss to pee on, as we say out West.

Raise the bar for customer applicants, and stop settling for "just" anyone who shows you the money.  By being an honest, transparent, "open book" breeder, it's only fair you expect transparency and honesty from your customers, too.  


LGD APPLICATION

2017 Cinco Deseos Ranch Application for Dog or Puppy/Puppies Purchase
Please answer questions in detail.  There is room at the end to add any other information you think would be pertinent.  Please send to: lgdnevada@gmail.com  Thank you, Brenda M. Negri

Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Email Address:
Home Phone:
Cellular Phone:
Best time to call:
  • Day
  • Evening

Social Media – answer all that are applicable.  If none, state so.

Copy and paste your Facebook page/pages url/urls here:
Copy and paste your Pinterest page/pages here:
Copy and paste your website/websites url here:

Please state how you heard about Cinco Deseos Ranch:

Have you contacted other LGD breeders?  Yes_______  No _________ 
If so, when and who? _________________________________________________________

Have you ever owned a Livestock Guardian Dog breed? If so, name breed/crosses:
  • Yes
  • No

Livestock Guardian Dogs have specific traits and temperament to match.  Please describe to me what that means to you, and what breeds or crosses interest you, and why you are contacting me for the breed you are (Spanish Mastiff or Pyrenean Mastiff), i.e., why do you want this breed/breeds?:



Please list your current pets and dogs, their age, breed and indicate whether they are indoor or outdoor pets, spayed or neutered and at what age they were spayed or neutered:
1.
2.
3.
4.

What brand of food do you feed your current dog(s) or plan to feed your new dog?  Be specific.  If raw fed, state so.


Have you ever given up a pet?  If yes, please explain:
  • Yes
  • No

How long have you been looking for a new dog/puppy?


Do you prefer a male or female and why?
  • Male
  • Female


Are you looking for a Livestock Guardian or Family Companion/Guardian?

This dog will be a companion for:


Do children live in or visit your home? If so please list the number of children and their ages:


Does everyone in the household want a dog?
  • Yes
  • No

Does anyone in the household have allergies to dog dander or hair?
  • Yes
  • No

Do you own or rent your home?
  • Own
  • Rent

If you rent, have you received approval from your Landlord for a large breed dog?
  • Yes
  • No

Landlord’s name, address and phone number:


Do you have a fenced yard, if so what is the size of the yard and the type of fence, please include enough photos that will show me the height and the type of your fencing.
  • Yes
  • No

Have you ever raised a puppy of any breed?
  • Yes
  • No


Do you have time to daily or weekly to groom, check ears, eyes, feet etc. of the dog?
  • Yes
  • No

Are you willing to puppy proof the area that the puppy will be in with escape proof fencing?
  • Yes
  • No

Who will be responsible for the care of your new dog?

If you go away on vacation who will care for your dog?

Where will your dog spend the majority of the time?

Where will the dog stay when you are not at home?

Where do you plan for the dog to sleep?

On average, how many hours a day will the dog be left alone?

Are you aware that I require you to maintain contact with me throughout the dog’s life by sending puppy updates with photos at least a few times a year and leaning on me for support when needed?  Failure to do so will result in revocation of all health and work guarantees AND breeder support.  Please…..keep in touch!
  • Yes
  • No

Are you aware that I will be here to assist you, offer training and guidance for the life of your dog?
  • Yes
  • No

Are you aware that I require you to contact me if you are no longer able to keep the dog so that I may assist you in finding a suitable home?
  • Yes
  • No

Are you aware that I ask to assist to rehome the dog and insist that a puppy of my creation NEVER be placed in a shelter, rescue or sold to the public without my assistance and involvement?
  • Yes
  • No


Would you consider a young (1- 3 years) dog rather than a puppy?
  • Yes
  • No


Unless otherwise stated and agreed upon, I require that you spay or neuter your puppy before the puppies 2nd birthday. Please articulate your understanding and agreement to do this below by printing  your full name and the words I WILL:


Your Veterinarian’s Name and Phone number:


Two references who have known you at least 5 years and are local, i.e. live near by you (cannot be relatives):

Name:
Phone number:

Name:
Phone number:


In addition to guarding livestock, do you plan to do any of the following with your dog:

·       Family Companion
·       Obedience
·       Therapy


I do not air ship but have used ground transports.  Do you plan to have the puppy transported by a third party?
  • Yes
  • No

If so, contact name and phone number and website if applicable:


If you have predators in your area, please describe the predator load and type, and if you have ever lost livestock to predation.  If you use predator deterrents other than LGDs please describe.  Please also describe the livestock you own and approximate numbers, if applicable. Feel free to include photos of your stock.


Have you given serious thought to your budget and the health care, food and miscellaneous cost requirements owning giant breeds such as the Spanish Mastiff and Pyrenean Mastiff entail?   


Do you realize food bills alone will go into the several hundreds of dollars per year?    Are you confident you are fiscally able to afford this?


Not all Spanish Mastiffs are created equal and I have over the years consistently produced some of the largest and healthiest in the country.  Both Spanish and Pyrenean Mastiffs are large, powerful dogs capable of easily knocking you over.  In particular my Spanish Mastiff males are some of if not the biggest in the country, sometimes reaching 36-38 inches in height and typically exceed 220 pounds in weight.  Do you feel you are physically capable of responsibly owning and handling such giant breeds?

Will you have an issue with the fact that both breeds can drool a lot and possibly splatter drool on your walls and furniture if inside?

Do you recognize that both breeds shed out their winter coats and take time to groom and comb?


Are you comfortable handling a giant dog to trim it’s nails, inspect it’s ears and body for any signs of sickness or any foreign matter that could be lodged in between toes, in their eyes or ears?


In terms of training on livestock, are you willing to take advice from me and be mentored in methods that have consistently worked for my customers?



REHOMING DOGS ONLY:  Life can always bring us surprises, tragedies and events that force us to make hard decisions.  Sometimes due to circumstances out of their control my customers must find a new home for the dog or dogs they bought from me.   As a responsible breeder I am always there to rehome the dogs for them.  The rehoming process can be extensive and stressful on the dog.  If the dog/dogs you are inquiring about are dogs that I bred, that a customer of mine must for one reason or another, re-home, please understand the importance of making sure your home will be the best one, and most importantly, the dog’s last and final “forever home”.  In order to lessen stress on the dog I go through even more extensive questioning to be sure this will be a good placement for the dogs, and the right choice for you.  Please do not be offended or think I am picking on you.  I do this for not just the dog’s sake, but for yours as well.  Taking on mature dogs with established habits, behaviors, quirks and more, can be both easier than a puppy, and in the same vein, be even more of a challenge for the owner, particularly when dealing with giant, independent breeds such as the ones I raise.  To that effect, please tell me in detail why you think you can be a good home for a dog or dogs that I am rehoming for a customer  - be as detailed as you need to be:










Please add any more comments or information you would like me to know to help me decide if you would be a good placement home for one of my pups or dogs.  This can include additional references besides the ones already requested in the above application.








Thank you in advance for taking the time to fill out this application to help me better decide if my dogs or pups are the right match for you.  I know it is a lot of work, but a Spanish or Pyrenean Mastiff is a huge commitment, not for everyone.  I strive to make sure you go into this with “eyes wide open”.  I appreciate your interest!  I look forward to hearing from you soon.  Thanks again.

                                                                                                                              Brenda M. Negri

APPLICATIONS NOT COMPLETED IN FULL or WITHOUT PHOTOS, WILL NOT BE RESPONDED TO.